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	<title>Comments on: Planning for the future, HTML 5 or The Flash Platform?</title>
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		<title>By: SMiGL</title>
		<link>http://esoterictechie.com/tech-news/planning-for-the-future-html-5-or-the-flash-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>SMiGL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intresting article. Thanks</description>
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		<title>By: Joe Wilson</title>
		<link>http://esoterictechie.com/tech-news/planning-for-the-future-html-5-or-the-flash-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like Gizmodo is reporting Flash 10 on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://gizmodo.com/5442911/palm-will-support-flash-10-on-pre&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Palm Pre&lt;/a&gt; has been sighted at CES. I can&#039;t wait to see how/if it works on the upcoming Apple tablet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Gizmodo is reporting Flash 10 on the <a href="http://gizmodo.com/5442911/palm-will-support-flash-10-on-pre" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Palm Pre</a> has been sighted at CES. I can&#8217;t wait to see how/if it works on the upcoming Apple tablet!</p>
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		<title>By: Clong</title>
		<link>http://esoterictechie.com/tech-news/planning-for-the-future-html-5-or-the-flash-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator>Clong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 17:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing Bryan.  I think your example is a good resource for people confronted with the same situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing Bryan.  I think your example is a good resource for people confronted with the same situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Berry</title>
		<link>http://esoterictechie.com/tech-news/planning-for-the-future-html-5-or-the-flash-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Berry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 00:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clong, 

To me it is an either/or situation because it is easier to have everyone using the same technology and tooling rather than two very different sets of tools. My small team will be more productive if all 7 are using the js+html5 rather than 3 using flash and 4 developing in js + html5. Consolidating on one platform will make it easier to share knowledge between team members rather than having it split between the &quot;flash guys&quot; and the &quot;html5 guys.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clong, </p>
<p>To me it is an either/or situation because it is easier to have everyone using the same technology and tooling rather than two very different sets of tools. My small team will be more productive if all 7 are using the js+html5 rather than 3 using flash and 4 developing in js + html5. Consolidating on one platform will make it easier to share knowledge between team members rather than having it split between the &#8220;flash guys&#8221; and the &#8220;html5 guys.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Clong</title>
		<link>http://esoterictechie.com/tech-news/planning-for-the-future-html-5-or-the-flash-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>Clong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 18:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Bryan,

That is fascinating.  I was wondering if teams were actually forced with an &quot;either/or&quot; scenario.

I&#039;m glad to see that you like jQuery.  The Esoteric Techie has a friend who is a contributor to the jQuery team.  We are all fans of it and support it.  In fact, I would recommend that you add him to your list of blogs to follow.  &gt;&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://brandonaaron.net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brandon Aaron&lt;/a&gt;

In response to Adobe keeping up with Google, I think it is all about niche.  Adobe has it&#039;s niche and is a clear leader.  I don&#039;t see them as &quot;behind&quot; Google in the world of web development tools.  However, Google has an enormous talent base and huge funding.  I think it is more likely that Google will invent something new rather than try to compete with Adobe&#039;s Flash Player.

One more thing, while I am a big fan of Google, I have noticed that when they purchase and take over existing intellectual properties, the technological progress with those properties slows down.  My example would be their acquisition of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.doubleclick.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;DoubleClick&lt;/a&gt;, the online advertising giant.  DoubleClick&#039;s advancements in the space have crawled to a stop.  They have spent the last two years trying to grow their customer base, which they have done and which has made them a lot of money, but there has been little to no innovation on the technology front from DoubleClick since the buyout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Bryan,</p>
<p>That is fascinating.  I was wondering if teams were actually forced with an &#8220;either/or&#8221; scenario.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad to see that you like jQuery.  The Esoteric Techie has a friend who is a contributor to the jQuery team.  We are all fans of it and support it.  In fact, I would recommend that you add him to your list of blogs to follow.  &gt;&gt; <a href="http://brandonaaron.net/" rel="nofollow">Brandon Aaron</a></p>
<p>In response to Adobe keeping up with Google, I think it is all about niche.  Adobe has it&#8217;s niche and is a clear leader.  I don&#8217;t see them as &#8220;behind&#8221; Google in the world of web development tools.  However, Google has an enormous talent base and huge funding.  I think it is more likely that Google will invent something new rather than try to compete with Adobe&#8217;s Flash Player.</p>
<p>One more thing, while I am a big fan of Google, I have noticed that when they purchase and take over existing intellectual properties, the technological progress with those properties slows down.  My example would be their acquisition of <a href="http://www.doubleclick.com/" rel="nofollow">DoubleClick</a>, the online advertising giant.  DoubleClick&#8217;s advancements in the space have crawled to a stop.  They have spent the last two years trying to grow their customer base, which they have done and which has made them a lot of money, but there has been little to no innovation on the technology front from DoubleClick since the buyout.</p>
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		<title>By: Clong</title>
		<link>http://esoterictechie.com/tech-news/planning-for-the-future-html-5-or-the-flash-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator>Clong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 18:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Sekhar.  You bring up a good point.  Mobile is still one of the major hurdles in the way of the Flash Platform.  However, if I may, I would interject that mobile experiences should be light and quick.  I probably wouldn&#039;t use Flash for a mobile site even if I could.

On a side note, the new &lt;a href=&quot;http://mashable.com/2010/01/06/flash-player-10-1-nexus-one/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Google Nexus One supports the latest and greatest Flash Player version 10.1&lt;/a&gt;.  So, there may be some hope left for Flash making it in the mobile world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Sekhar.  You bring up a good point.  Mobile is still one of the major hurdles in the way of the Flash Platform.  However, if I may, I would interject that mobile experiences should be light and quick.  I probably wouldn&#8217;t use Flash for a mobile site even if I could.</p>
<p>On a side note, the new <a href="http://mashable.com/2010/01/06/flash-player-10-1-nexus-one/" rel="nofollow">Google Nexus One supports the latest and greatest Flash Player version 10.1</a>.  So, there may be some hope left for Flash making it in the mobile world.</p>
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		<title>By: Clong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 18:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mike for your thoughts.  Happy New Year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mike for your thoughts.  Happy New Year.</p>
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		<title>By: Sekhar Ravinutala</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sekhar Ravinutala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been a big Flash/Flex supporter, but am having second thoughts with the lack of support on mobile devices. Who know if/when Flash will appear in iPhone browser (not apps, I&#039;m talking browser), and adoption on Android is really iffy (only on Hero as of today AFAIK). It&#039;s a MAJOR bummer that all the cool stuff you produce just won&#039;t appear on any of the millions of (rapidly growing) smartphones.

Changing course, the current project I&#039;m doing in GWT (a Google toolkit that lets you write in Java and convert to JavaScript). It&#039;s like Flash in the sense you build once and it generally works out of the box on different browsers without messing with JavaScript; and it&#039;s like plain HTML/JavaScript because that&#039;s what it produces. I&#039;m happy so far, feel better than I felt with my earlier Flex project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been a big Flash/Flex supporter, but am having second thoughts with the lack of support on mobile devices. Who know if/when Flash will appear in iPhone browser (not apps, I&#8217;m talking browser), and adoption on Android is really iffy (only on Hero as of today AFAIK). It&#8217;s a MAJOR bummer that all the cool stuff you produce just won&#8217;t appear on any of the millions of (rapidly growing) smartphones.</p>
<p>Changing course, the current project I&#8217;m doing in GWT (a Google toolkit that lets you write in Java and convert to JavaScript). It&#8217;s like Flash in the sense you build once and it generally works out of the box on different browsers without messing with JavaScript; and it&#8217;s like plain HTML/JavaScript because that&#8217;s what it produces. I&#8217;m happy so far, feel better than I felt with my earlier Flex project.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Heath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 16:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been building forms like the ones you describe using HTML and JavaScript for years.  You don&#039;t need HTML 5 for that.

&quot;I can make a text box glow red if you leave it blank.&quot;

Good for you.  You can do the same thing with JavaScript today.  No need for HTML 5 here.

&quot;I can make new options on the form appear based on your current selection.&quot;

You don&#039;t need HTML 5 for this either.

&quot;Not only can I make those new options appear, I can make them slide in from the right side of the page and then have their font change color to be sure that you notice them.&quot;

Again, you can do this in JavaScript.  The possibilities of making a form more user friendly using JavaScript and existing HTML is limited only by my imagination.  Nothing of what you describe here requires HTML 5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been building forms like the ones you describe using HTML and JavaScript for years.  You don&#8217;t need HTML 5 for that.</p>
<p>&#8220;I can make a text box glow red if you leave it blank.&#8221;</p>
<p>Good for you.  You can do the same thing with JavaScript today.  No need for HTML 5 here.</p>
<p>&#8220;I can make new options on the form appear based on your current selection.&#8221;</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t need HTML 5 for this either.</p>
<p>&#8220;Not only can I make those new options appear, I can make them slide in from the right side of the page and then have their font change color to be sure that you notice them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Again, you can do this in JavaScript.  The possibilities of making a form more user friendly using JavaScript and existing HTML is limited only by my imagination.  Nothing of what you describe here requires HTML 5.</p>
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		<title>By: tutsvalley</title>
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		<dc:creator>tutsvalley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 13:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i thing Flash Platform is better. i like flash</description>
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